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MegaStills by Matt

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#16 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 08:50
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[quote=]It is profound how the overseas girls come here, coiffed, flawless, manicured and buffed.

The local girls say " ya, nobody has perfect skin. Thank Goodness for Photoshop hey !.."
Nonsense ![/quote]

thank-you Sir!!

BradR

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#17 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 08:57
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I think it is a bit of a generalisation to say "the local girls"

I'm trying to turn my carbon-footprint into a carbon-thumbprint. Generalizing is my way of achieving this goal.
I agree, there are some (bittermin ) local girls who really look after themselves. Vicky Lawrence comes to mind.
This is rather strange though.. I mean, you as a tog keep your backdrop clean and your batteries charged, dont you..

Gerry

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#18 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 08:59
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keep your backdrop clean and your batteries charged

I've so far managed to avoid the "o fok, flat battery" blunder, but only just!

Morgaen

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#19 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 09:03
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I've so far managed to avoid the "o fok, flat battery" blunder, but only just!

If only models had "a spare" lol

Blue Art Productions

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#20 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 09:04
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I don't mind a bit of PS work for blemishes and grading, but that's where it stops for me.. Either the 'over shopping' is a new art-form I am yet to discover or someone is missing the point.

Morgaen

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#21 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 09:12
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There are very few "new" art forms. There are variations yes. Unfortunately there are very many new rediculous trends in art though I would not call over-plastification of skin "art" considering it is mostly done in commercial practice.

BradR

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#22 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 09:19 | Edited by: BradR
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I've so far managed to avoid the "o fok, flat battery" blunder, but only just!

*looks over to where Shieldwolf is shuffling his feet in the corner*.. Well Jerry, you may have avoided this, but I cant say the same for You Know Who. ;-)

Morgaen

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#23 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 09:21
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Lens caps are a pronblem too.

BradR

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#24 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 09:22
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Lens caps are a pronblem too.

Look, you've been listening to Ugly Rumours !

Gerry

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#25 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 09:30
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Lets get back on topic – my "job" as a photographer, is to make the "subject" (be it a pro model, a newbie model, a bride, a new mum, a exec for an annual report, an actress in a Bollywood movie, an author for a book-cover, whatever - and yes, I've done all that!) look as good as possible. I see that as part of my brief. If I can't do that, then why use me – just go and get your camera phone out and take the pics yourself. A part – a big part – of that job, is 'shoppin' skin.

I take pride in making my subjects (gads, how impersonal!), look as good as I know how. They must love themselves in that picture. But its all about balance. Don't make people look too fake or too plastic – I made a major advancement in my photography once I've learned to make skin look natural while getting rid of the crow's feet, smoker's pleats, dark circles and the zit that insisted on creeping up the night before the shoot.

Its about how well your model feels about herself (and occasionally himself) on that photo – if the model goes "wow, I like that" you get return jobs. If your photo is "au natural" and someone else makes her look good, you are going to wonder why you don't get any repeat business.

Morgaen

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#26 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 09:47
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I take pride in making my subjects (gads, how impersonal!), look as good as I know how. They must love themselves in that picture

+150 for the general public, however, a "model' must already look like that good when they walk into my studio. Thats THEIR job.

Gerry

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#27 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 10:26
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a "model' must already look like that good when they walk into my studio. Thats THEIR job.

true dat... but then the job of the photographer is to make her look BETTER than the photographer down the road.

Morgaen

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#28 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 10:36
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but then the job of the photographer is to make her look BETTER than the photographer down the road.

and it is the job of the model to be better than the other model down the road ... and so we carry on.

PixU

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#29 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 10:48
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The basic rule that I apply to my photoshoping:

The more sophisticated the target audience of an image, the less extreme the PS work.

Gerry

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#30 | Posted: 25 Jul 2011 11:10
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The more sophisticated the target audience of an image, the less extreme the PS work.

So you are saying Morgaen's movie poster for Saw XVI is not for sophisticated audiences?

Thought so.
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