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BradR

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#1 | Posted: 29 Jun 2012 11:12 | Edited by: BradR
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As many members by now know, a recent spate of home-invasions and equipment thefts involving full-time photographers has culminated in a huge haul at a rented house on a golfcourse in Gordons Bay, Cape Town.

A week ago, a woman photographer in Hout Bay heard a noise at 1Am in the morning. She crept to look out of the windows near her front door, and 2 thugs wearing balaclavas were already in her house. They manhandled and assaulted her, and stuck a screwdriver down her throat. A third person was elsewhere in the house. They tormented her for an hour in her house, before leaving with all her camera gear.
This courageous woman on Saturday past, tracked down her Nikon D700 and other camera gear to a man living on the grounds of a golf course in Gordons Bay. This is where the police found lots and lots of other high-end photographic equipment. Thanks to one brave woman.

What has stunned me most, is the amount of photographer "clients" scurrying to defend this "equipment supplier" guy. After all, they say, he wasnt involved in the robbery.

On "Pro" forums like those on Outdoorphoto where this guy regularly sells equipment, I was basically accused of lying when I posted the Official SAPS report on the Gordons Bay haul.
(Despite the facts confirming my statements being available via a quick call to SAPS Corporate Communications or the police station, one admin decided to inform members "..the arrests were made because a buyer recognized goods from a seller and communicated their concerns to the seller. . So far, none of the people I have been communicating with has been under arrest {AN UNTRUTH}, and the members involved have been cleared{ANOTHER LIE - the 2 men were given bail}, although most of their equipment is currently with the SAPS "in case" newer reports come in of stolen goods {This is too far in the realm of the fantastic to expect adults to swallow}"
Pointing out that SAPS themselves say in their Press Release that they arrested the guy concerned and he and an accomplice had appeared in court, had no effect. The admin chose to stick to the story given to him by the Gordons Bay "equipment supplier"
The tactic then became even more hysterical and aimed at the credibility of the messenger -", until a day ago, nobody on this forum has heard of you !" )
I suspect that this spirited defence of someone caught red-handed dealing in stolen photo gear has it's roots in something other than simple camaraderie.

Lets be honest, one would have to be monumentally naive, or desperately need to have an alternative set of facts, to believe that this guy bought in R75 000 cameras and hugely-expensive ,specialist, pro lenses etc from people on the street without knowing that they could have maybe, just possibly have been wrenched from an innocent photographer or his family.

How many of these cameras came complete with ID books, shooting-permits and other personal items which identified the owner as a real person, who had no intention of selling his entire kit for R500?

I have to admit I get ill when I think of how utterly selfish a person must be to want to keep a guy in business so they can continue receiving their little "bargains".

How horrendously-callous does an individual have to be to ignore the real possibility that a father, a mother, a child, was tortured, assaulted for hours, or that someone died so they can scoop up a Canon 1DsMkIII , Nikon D3 or simlar piece of equipment for next to nothing?
Do you wipe the sticky brown congealed substance off your latest prized possession, convincing yourself that the victim probably had medical aid?

Yes, you probably did make a killing.

Morgaen

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#2 | Posted: 29 Jun 2012 11:19
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How horrendously-callous does an individual have to be to ignore the fact that a father, a mother, a child, was tortured, assaulted for hours, or that someone died

So their stealing camera equipment from farmers now?

MegaStills by Matt

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#3 | Posted: 29 Jun 2012 11:28
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my 1DsIII that was stolen has all my details embedded in the camera's EXIF info.

Any camera guy could easily see that info.

If there were no buyers for the equipment there would be no theft of the equipment.

This "dealer" should be charged with all the crimes that the house breakers committed. He knows what he is doing and should pay.

BradR

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#4 | Posted: 30 Jun 2012 01:07
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He knows what he is doing and should pay.

.. as well as the person currently holding the rest of the equipment he managed to keep from the cops .

Perpetual Paradox

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#5 | Posted: 30 Jun 2012 01:53 | Edited by: Perpetual Paradox
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Name some of these bad guys, so that we can stay clear of them, and hopefully reduce their potential customer base a little.

Who are these guys ?
Who is the Gordon's Bay "equipment supplier" ?

Post links to the info if you don't feel comfortable naming and shaming.

Thanks for bringing this info to the community, I for one didn't know about this before.
Big up to you Brad!

ejphotography

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#6 | Posted: 30 Jun 2012 12:24
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Name and shame anyone who is involved in this. It takes you a few years back when all your stuff is stolen but the guy selling it out of his house for R500 feels nothing for the poor sob who now must go and borrow more money to make a living.

Personally i'd like to see guys like that listed at all camera shops and dealers on websites who must then refuse to do business with him.

BradR

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#7 | Posted: 30 Jun 2012 12:28
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fyi

http://www.outdoorphoto.co.za/forums/showthread.php?25259-Stolen-photographic-goods

The Gumtree/ODP/bidorbuy "seller" has not pleaded yet in court, so his name cant be published. You are of course welcome to enter into private conversations with me.

Shoots Imaging

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#8 | Posted: 2 Jul 2012 16:10
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I am very disappointed Brad.

You just keep on going... Have you even read your own words? You even contradict yourself...

http://odp-direct.co.za/c/criminalactivity

BradR

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#9 | Posted: 2 Jul 2012 16:26
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Sean, I'm not sure if you expect me to fall to my knees and go "Ja oubaas " or something to this effect. When you have valid argument, based on the comprehension one can reasonably expect of an average person, then by all means, look me up. I may have an afternoon free. However, if you carry on with the tiringly adolescent tactic of throwing around wild assumptions of what you THINK people are saying, then I have better things to do.

Play around with this concept. Feel free to stretch it, prod it, steal it. Try out logic for a change, I really don't care, see.

Shoots Imaging

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#10 | Posted: 2 Jul 2012 17:05
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Is that why you deleted my comment on the facebook group where you are admin? All I did was ask you to make a direct and clear accusation and not insinuate...

Bradley Ruiters Wrote: "It's not surprising that someone with an apparent direct direct line to the stolen camera equipment syndicate (judging by your claims) has a different take to the Official SAPS report, The Weekend Argus et al."

So seeing that you didn't want to answer where you are an admin, and not where there are 28,000 members reading your posts, do it here:

What are you accusing me of?

Don't insinuate. Don't imply. Just make your statement to me. In public.

BradR

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#11 | Posted: 2 Jul 2012 17:08 | Edited by: BradR
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I did. You cant't understand.

I am responsible only for what I say. Not for what you misunderstand. Simple.

Once more, for laughs -

You said "So far, none of the people I have been communicating with has been under arrest and the members involved have been cleared, although most of their equipment is currently with the SAPS "in case" newer reports come in of stolen goods

When you persisted with ranting about how I twisted the truth by pointing out the obvious but inconvenient stuff like uhm, he spent some time in the cells, and him and his hand-langer got bail, not a Get-out-of-jail-free card, I said

" It's not surprising that someone with an apparent direct direct line to the stolen camera equipment syndicate (judging by your claims ) has a different take to the Official SAPS report, The Weekend Argus et al."

If you can't understand how my statement relates to your statement which precedes it (above) then there is nothing I can do. Really.

Cape Photo Studio

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#12 | Posted: 2 Jul 2012 18:06
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Huh?????

Shoots Imaging

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#13 | Posted: 2 Jul 2012 18:54
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Didn't expect much more...

Gerry

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#14 | Posted: 3 Jul 2012 06:38
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Huh?????

HUH????


what is brad accusing Sean of here?

I'm reading between the lines, but not sure i'm reading correctly.

Serendipity Memories

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#15 | Posted: 3 Jul 2012 07:17 | Edited by: Serendipity Memories
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@BradR. I am so glad I live in a country with a constitution that says "NOT guilty until proven"

Being charged with anything still does not make you guilty.

Your whole argument on every forum you have access to is based on a newspaper that sells sensation. Sensation sells, and facts are not always sensation.

You have been asked for the facts. The name of the person charged, you said you could not give it since the person did not plead yet. What bull. Then keep quite until you can report a real story.

You were asked for the Police case number, all you can recite is the news paper article. Then you call it the OFFICIAL police statement. Sorry sir, nothing that is printed in any news paper is official nor allowed in a criminal case in court. That is perceived as hear say.

So either put the facts down, give the official police case number so we can get the real facts, not your version, or shut up. (Politely requested).

I do not understand, you started this sensation on the ODP forum, when some members asked for more detail than the sensation, you turned to facebook, when you got resistance, you deleted some members comments. Then you turned to modelbase. Now I replied the first time to you. Lets leave the sensation at home, give the facts, not your hearsay version, then I can make an inform decision. If you cannot give it, get it first. If you cannot give it yet due to human rights, wait until you can give ALL the facts before you start blowing up smoke.

Even if you are sincere and correct, the way you handled the situation was premature. The way you continued to handle the situation just makes you very unpopular and starts to irritate a lot of people.
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